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At Super Gauteng Plumbers we have been proudly serving our customers in Gauteng with residential and commercial plumbing services for 30 years. As a full-service plumbing company focused on providing high-quality plumbing solutions and unbeatable customer care, there is no job too small or too large for us to handle. Whether its a small repair, full installation, or an entire remodelling project, we will always take the time to listen to your concerns and work with you to find a cost-effective... Read more

We install,repair and service all industrial roller shutter doors in Gauteng.We are fast and sufficient and take pride in our work.Over 20 years experience Read more

We at Integrity Risk Management are excited to assist your company/organization with security and risk management solutions, we are committed to you already and want to provide the best possible solutions. As our company motto says Faith and Honor we want to guarantee that our commitment to you will be faithful and honorable. We are a VAT registered Risk Management and Security Provider registered with the Private Security Industry Regulating Authority (P.S.i.R.A) and a BEE contributor. Our guards... Read more

About Us We supply quality workmanship and service in property maintenance, renovations and repairs with qualified staff members. We strive to be the best in the business hence the reason we have employed staff that has 10 years experience in renovations and maintenance industry. All our projects are managed by a team of qualified and dedicated staff. Short and long Term Maintenance contracts offered. We specialise in the below services: Painting of Interior and Exterior with proper... Read more

We do general maintanance and repairs . Steelworks Concrete & Civils Carports & Refurbising of Carports Building. Retainer walls and concrete driveways Internal repairs to ceilings , doors and floors. General Wiodworking. Read more

Tendai Construction (PTY) LTD was established in 2013 in Beverly Hill (Evaton west) to primarily focus on General Building and Civil construction around Gauteng such as Building & Renovating (altering houses) Tiling & Paving Water proofing Painting Civil works & Plumbing Steel work Tendai Construction was formed to create a legacy for the future generation and the one of the leading construction service provider in the country. Hence Tendai Construction is an entity recognized by... Read more

We specialize in home and office furniture removals around south Africa. Our services include packing ,relocation,precleaning,unpacking,supply of packing materials Read more

Our highly qualified and skilled experts are dedicated to completing your project (large or small) with quality results, on time, and within your budget.All our projects are supervised by experts with more than 10 years industry experience. We stay at your job until its complete and done to your satisfaction. SERVICES -Building/construction of new structures and improvement of existing ones. -Carpentry, we have specialist on all wood works for doors, ceilings, walls, and kitchen fittings -Flooring-we... Read more

We are an electrical and air-conditioning company based in Hillcrest KwaZulu Natal with over 10years of experience in dealing with electrical and air-conditioning problems and new installations. We cover the entire upper highway area and Durban surroundings. Read more

We are an independent structural consulting firm who specializes in the design and draughting of small to medium sized projects. Our services include the design and drafting of all structural elements, geotechnical investigations and reporting, stormwater management plans, preparation of all relevant certificates and municipal submission documents. Give us a call for more information Read more

At Pack Builders, we have been in the construction industry for over 15 years serving clients around Cape Town. We have a team of well trained professionals and relevant equipment to tackle any project of any size. We are here to serve all your building and construction needs. PACK gives clients confidence by delivering the most complex,logistically challenging projects.with a workforce of over 40 different skill When it's time to give your property a face lift, we can renovate your... Read more

Our fencing products are produced with 3 factors in mind: Safeguarding Longevity Best value for money We obtain an understanding of our client's specific needs and offer our own input to reach the optimum design to meet their requirements. The manufacturing team at Omnifil Fencing was handpicked for their skill and years of manufacturing experience in the fencing industry, which will ensure our clients of the highest quality fencing. The fencing panel material differs according to... Read more

We specialize in the installation and servicing of Security Alarm systems,CCTV Camera systems, Gate and Garage automation, Intercoms and Biometric readers, access control, Electric fence and all types of security systems upgrades and repairs. 24/7 technical support line . Over 18 years experience in the Industry. Read more

We specialize in the installation and repair of Garage doors and garage door motors, Industrial doors and automation, Gates, Gate Motors and access control including CCTV Read more

BOTSEBOTSE PLUMBING (Pty) Ltd is a full service plumbing company providing quality services in maintenance and new installations to residential and commercial customers. Our company act in accordance with SANS 10252 & 10254 installation standards, and use only SABS approved products. The company offers the client reassurance by providing thorough assessments and/or inspections, quality workmanship and further in depth analysis on preventive plumbing maintenance. Our plumbers are qualified and... Read more

Industrial Roller Shutter Doors, Repairs, Manufacturers & Services to Roller Shutter Doors, Automation, Gate Motors, Garage Motors, Sectional Doors, Roll-up Doors, Springs, Cables, Remotes, Programming Read more

Welcome to Quantum Solutions Waterproofing - Leaders in Waterproofing & Damp Proofing in Cape Town. We specialize in all Waterproofing, Damp proofing and Roof Repairs. Our specialised waterproofing includes: All Roof Types Balconies Flashings and Parapets Showers Planters Water features Retaining walls Rising Damp Treatment Basement Waterproofing (Other other sub-soil rooms) Concrete/Crystalline Waterproofing We are proudly approved applicators for Sika, Derbigum, ABE,... Read more

Integrated Home solutions, construction company that specialises in home renovations, plastering, painting, cement floors, electrical securities, security, cleaning, satellite dish installation and property management. Read more

We are specialists in building revamps, Decking & Wooden Flooring installers, Door installers, Cabinets, BICs, Drywalls, Ceilings and General Carpentry work. A very mobile & experienced team at your services 24/7. We operate the whole of Gauteng and other provinces. Traceable References available. Read more

We specialise in all types of: Wire Mesh Fencing, Gates & Automation, Electric Fencing to the Industrial, Commercial and Domestic Market. Also providing gate installation and automation services.We also do: Home Improvements & Building Alterations, Steel Fabrication, Waterproofing, Repairs & Maintenance, Painting, Brick Laying, Plastering, Floor & Wall Tiling,Carports and awnings installation & Repairs, Stainless Steel Tig Welding, Our staff has over 10 years experience and our workmanship is guaranteed... Read more

Construction services Skebhe Trading offers comprehensive construction services, in KwaZulu-Natal and nationwide. We specialise in General Construction, Civil Works, Plumbing & Electrical,Tiling as well as Plant Hire. These services include; brickwork, plastering, painting, partitioning, tiling, roadworks, kerbs, concrete, paving, storm water installation, plumbing & electrical maintenance and installations, etc.... Read more

24hr Affordable Mobile Emergency Locksmith in Johannesburg. Service all areas. Call now Read more

OFW is the best Office Furniture Wholesaler in South Africa, Cape Town. If you are looking for exclusive Office Furniture, contact us to see our wide range of Office furniture. We deliver and Install throughout South Africa. Read more

DStv Cable Guys is a South African satellite installation service company in Johannesburg. The service company started in 2009 as a home business and provides multiple WiFi and DStv installer services to DStv subscribers. We provide the best installation service in town and use latest approved products for flawless viewing. Our technicians are top rated and vetted for safety and effectiveness. After sales customer care is our number one priority that contributed a lot in our growth through customer... Read more

Our Technical team comprises of highly skilled and knowledgeable professionals. We all have one common goal helping you. We offer same day services and we pride ourselves on the ability to quickly attend to your needs easily with the aid of experience and familiarization with the working environment. Brilliance or nothing. Electrical installations. Plumbing. Paving. Tiling. Ceiling and partition installation. Bathroom and kitchen renovations. Dstv Installation. Dstv repairs Read more

Superior Roofing & Waterproofing is your first choice ROOFING Contractor offering Quality Service and Workmanship at very affordable rates.We have over 15 Years experiance in the roofing field and we strive to always keep our clients satisfied by using the very best Quality Materials on offer backed up with Exeptional Quality Guaranteed Workmanship.We service mainly the Domestic and Industrial Sectors covering the Port elizabeth and Surrounding Areas.Our Services that we offer include Replacing of... Read more

# 1 ClearView Fencing Pros, Get Quote Online. ClearVu, Anti-Climb Fence Panels For Sale. Supply and setup of SA's most popular choice in fencing for house and commercial. Clear View likewise is called ClearVu Fencing is * Tamper Proof * Anti-Climb. Clear View fencing, likewise commonly called ClearVu fencing, is fast ending up being the leading option in the fencing industry, surpassing its competitors in palisade fencing. Its special functions make it the top choice when deciding to protect... Read more

We provide house plans and structural drawings for the construction industry. Read more

For all your paving and tarring on driveways call experts in industry we service both commercial and residential projects Service Paving Tarring Retainers walls Kerbing Road markings Read more

Best Tiling contractor in The Southen Africa based is the North Coast KZN. Our reputation speaks for itself, We have done so many projects and also worked with other big construction companies in South Africa , with the skills and proffetionalism of our workman and directors we excel into the client's expectations. Anglo Dynamic Groups is the solution to your tiling small, medium and large projects Read more

Specialist Gate Motor Repair - Cape Gate Motors and Repairs Cape Town ------ Installation, repairs and servicing of Centurion and ET Nice Hansa gate motors and intercom systems. ----- Repair your gate motor, 1 hour or less - Call Now Simple Online Quotes. Crews on the road in Cape Town. Supply and Put in -------------- About Cape Gate Motors and Repairs Cape Town --------------- Anytime your gate motor becomes faulty it can act on your family's safety and security, contact us... Read more

Theres nothing like a fresh, new coat of paint to bring life to the exterior of your building or the interior of your home. With our professional team of painters and years of experience we know how to work efficiently with as little inconvenience to you as possible while still delivering a final product that surpasses your expectations. We pride ourselves on offering a comprehensive painting solution and high quality painting finishes at competitive prices. If you are looking for Professional... Read more

We do: *Garage door repairs and maintenance *New Garage Door Motors and installations. *Gate motor installations and repairs *Electric Fence *Roller Shutter Doors *Cctv and much more CALL TODAY AS WE ARE OPEN 24/7 AT YOUT SERVICE Read more

MiaMarcus Star Aluminium was founded in 2016 and it is proudly South African black owned company, providing best quality products and easy-access to all our local customers. We manufacture glass and aluminium products for both residential and commercial projects in South Africa and neighbouring countries such as Zimbabwe and Botswana. Our business is steered personally by Sam and Thabo who are well established in the industry with over 15 years of experience and expertise. Our scope of work includes... Read more

Professional Architectural Services in the Durbanville Area. From Concept/Design, through to Construction Phase. Read more

100% black owned provider for the construction industry who strives to deliver projects on time and within budget without compromising on quality Read more

Building new pools Resize pools Renew pools Fibreglass relinings Paving Pool deckings OTHERS: Carports WE specialises in building in-ground POOLS and also do fibreglass relinings on existing gunite,concrete and fibreglass swimming pools for ,architects,private customers,builders and home owners. WE also installs custom made pool deckings paving,carports and installation of pool pumps,pool filters,etc. Read more

Office cleaning Window cleaning Carpet cleaning Mall cleaning Kitchen deep cleaning Pre and Post Occupation cleaning Hospital ,Clinics , Medical Centers etc Cleaning of All Parks ,stadiums and event spaces Read more

Creative Design Glass and Aluminium is an home improvements company that does all the maintanances and repairs of aluminium windows and doors .Putty and all glazings we doing as the part of our trade.This company manufactures and install it's products.We manufacture all types of aluminium windows and doors ,and we distribute our products nationwide at lower cost.All our windows and doors are much stronger and good quality material from Wispeco.Deliveries are done all in time and the repairs are done... Read more

Brown Sky is 100% Black woman owned from Rural Area. we guarantee our services and we strive to satisfy our customers. We provide the following services 1. Building and construction 2. Landscaping 3. Nanny support Company Raring: BBBEE Level 1 CIDB: 1GB Read more

There are a lot of interior designers and decorators that do what we do. They share the same what and how, but our clients work with us for our why and our who. We are friendly dynamic creators and we set out to connect with people on what matters most their space and experience in it. Adore Design is a full service Interior Design company specializing in residential projects big and small, commercial and retail sectors. Whether its a renovation or a new custom home, the design team is experienced... Read more

Geyser repair Pretoria east no call out fee all areas , Olympus geyser burst , Faerie glen geyser installation , Silverlakes burst pipe , Pretoria east Plumbers, leak detection, burst pipe repairs or water main renewal as well as lead water pipe replacement. Our team of professionals specialise in all aspects of burst water mains and water pipe repair and offer flexibility and professionalism 071 Brown 8742375 Broken pipes and water leaks can be problematic and costly for homeowners. Fastsolutions... Read more

We employ highly qualified plumbers, and with over 15 years of experience under our belt we have fine tuned our skills and knowledge to suit the service industry, which requires transparency, reliability and professionalism. You get high quality service and workmanship. Our plumbing quality is built to last, we are so confident in our quality of work that we even guarantee our workmanship. Bathroom and Kitchen Renovations. Any plumbing repair or new building work. Blocked drains burst geysers Leak... Read more

Creative Coating Solutions manufactures various textured gamazine wall coatings. It supplies products ready to use and has various teams that can apply the product should the client prefer not to do the application themselves.The products supplied by Creative Coating Solutions are high quality gamazine coatings guaranteed to last more than 10 years, thereby drastically decreasing the cost of maintenance required by other paint finishes. It disguises hairline cracks and other minor building defects.Creative... Read more

Cape Handyman Services is a Painting, Waterproofing and home maintenance construction company based in Durbanville that help with general contractor, building and property restorations services in Cape Town. We also offer a Covid-19 Emergency Call-Out-service as well as our specialized roof, leaks-and- repair-service in other local areas near to us in the northern and southern-suburbs, Atlantic seaboard, West Coast, Cape-Winelands and the Overberg. Our goal is to provide you with top quality work,... Read more

At Elite Plumber we provide a full range of Plumbing Services in Gauteng. No matter what your plumbing requirements are from plumbing installations, plumbing upgrades, plumbing maintenance to 24 Hour emergency Plumbing. Regardless of your plumbing problems, or whether you need plumbing services for your home or business our plumbers at Elite Plumbers, have the best solutions for you. Read more

1) Vision. Our vision is to generate wealth through the sustainable development of resources and communities wherever we operate.(2) Mission To contribute expertise and a business philosophy of sustainable wealth creation through targeting procurement entrepreneur development and socio-economic development .(3) SAFETY we committed to safe and healthy working environment and ensures strict compliance with the South African Occupational health and safety act ,1993. (4) COMMUNITY . Community is our... Read more

We take pride in being a Level 1 BBEEE high performance fencing company providing quality customer service and first class products. Our commitment and vision is to continue to produce and supply the best quality products, increase manufacturing efficiency, reduce costs and enhance quality to better serve our customers needs. We have a range of fences/gates to complement your lifesyle or commercial property or farm. Talk to us and find the perfect solution. Read more

At Billy locksmith 24/7 you will get all your locksmith solutions be it Residential.. Commercial.. Automotive.. Post box keys.. Safes.. we specialize in all locksmith issues and providing you our valuable customers a good fast response with friendly affordable 24/7 service.. Anywhere in and around the Durban area.. Read more

Gate Motor Repairs Fourways - 24 Hours - Pro Gate Motors Fourways Fourways 24 Hour Swift Response - Centurion, Gemini, Hansa, ET - Best Gate Motor Workforce in Fourways * 1 Hour or Less * -------------------------------- Very Affordable Gate Motor Repairs and New Installations Swift Call Outs. All gate motor manufacturers. Cost effective call out charge Pro Gate Motor Repairs - Fourways 31 Ibis Ln Fourways 2055 Gauteng Welcome to Pro Gate Motors Fourways Pro Gate Motors Fourways... Read more

Total Cleaning Services Pty Ltd is a well-established, highly reputable contract cleaning company in Cape Town that is widely recognized and respected for the outstanding quality of our service and our personalized approach. We deliver comprehensive, fully tailored contract cleaning, hygiene and pest management solutions to a diverse range of industries within the Cape Peninsula. 6-Reasons Why You Can Choose Us: 1)We offer everything under one roof with our complete range of contract cleaning,... Read more

Supply and fit of inverters and batteries for back up power supply. All work performed to high standards and necessary certificates issued upon completion. Read more

Waterproofing your home or business premises is critical to securing your assets. And, being a significant investment, you want to ensure it is done correctly the first time. It may seem like a large cost, but you are sure to save in the long term. We at Hermanus Torch On Waterproofing have over 20 years experience in the building and renovation industry, during which time we have successfully solved a variety of problems involving leaking, seepage, dampness and water damage in roofs and walls. Read more

BMM Industries specializes in the following: Renovations, Refurbishments, New Builds, Extensions, Alterations, Tiling & Cladding, Painting, Aluminium, Paving, Plumbing, Ceilings, Waterproofing, Drywalling, Plastering and Interior Decorating. Interior Decoration - we custom-make all our items according to your colour & size preferance. We offer a one-stop-shop service to our clients & therefor our Project Management Services include the overall planning, coordination, overseeing and completion... Read more

Abatts Plumbing and Maintenance 24/7 - Registered, Red seal, Master plumber. Offers you complete and accurate plumbing solutions from maintenance and repairs to renovations and new buildings. We provide our customers with fast and efficient plumbing service. We are committed to provide our customers with a affordable and reliable service every time and work to uphold our motto 'Workmanship Guaranteed. When it comes to geyser repairs or replacements we are your preferred service providers on the... Read more

We do all handyman and renovation projects including painting, flooring, bathrooms, kitchen cupboards, taps, plumbing and electrical work. We also do irrigation, pool and garden service. We also do full cleaning projects. MEN OF ALL TRADES is a family-owned and run business. Our mission is to provide exceptional service and unbeatable pricing. We believe that honesty and pride in our work to be the most important part of our business. MEN OF ALL TRADES provides a comprehensive service to... Read more

We specialize in property development, new home building, renovations and alterations. Read more

Inscape Design is an Interior Glass Company, focusing on interior glass and mirror solutions to transform your space into something extraordinary. With more than 5 years of interior glass and over 15 years of design experience, you are in very good hands when it comes to creating a glass vision to suit any space. Our team walks with you through every step of the way, ensuring that every project is as unique as you. Our dedication to glass goes beyond our products it is our passion. Glass is a... Read more

We specialise in Roofing New, maintenance and repair Are established in the building industry with over 20 years experience. References available on request Read more

We are the largest appliance repair company north of the Umgeni.Established in 1983,we have grown to become a household name in the appliance repair and electrical field.Our factory trained technician's are able to carry out repairs on all domestic and commercial appliances,be it in your home or at our fully fledged workshop.With a large fleet of vehicles,covering the north coast,south coast,durban central and inland,we are able to call out to you on the same day. Our professional technician's are... Read more

Outdoor Creations is a full turnkey landscape developing company. We design renovate and and install new landscapes; swimming pools; boma and braai areas; rain water harvesting; irrigation and maintenance. We operate in Pretoria; Centurion areas. Read more

Well trusted and reliable work done! We do all kind of home buildings and security fencing . New Buildings , brickwork , plastering and roofing, Concrete suspended staircase , burglar proofing , security gate ,palisade fence, window frames manufacturers. Waterproofing , painting, tillng and all plumbing related works with certificate of completion . Read more

We are specialists in building construction for industrial, commercial and residential tarring / paving at the most affordable rates. Read more

Msb Electrical Construction Pty Ltd is a black owned company,Founded in 2017. The aim of this Company is to train many youngsters to become tradesman,finish their qualifications and also create the employment opportunities in South Coast. We are specialised in: 1.House Wiring and Installations New building or Old building,Fully Installation 2. DB Service and Installations DB is the heart of electrical in your households,Very important to keep checking it atleast once a month.Call us to... Read more

We have been in operation since may 2003, took a break between 2013 and restarted up in 2017. We also own another business called FI Renovators We are a small company therefore making it easy for us to be personally hands on with all our work. Francisco (Chico) is very hands on with the work. We are a team of 4 Owner and his Wife and 2 Staff which come in when absolutely needed. We do all forms of plumbing from fixing leaks to geysers and full bathroom and kitchen renovations. Currently... Read more

We offer furniture removal services, we supply packaging materials aswell as storage facilities in the Western Cape and all over South Africa. We also buy and sell used fur furniture and appliances in our Cape Town branch. We furthermore offer value added services like packing and unpacking of boxes, wrapping of sensitive items aswell as cleaning of vacares property. Read more

OAC CONSTRUCTION SERVICES is more than 10 years experience in the following SERVICES: Our Company mainly specializing in: *Laminate-flooring installation *Fitting Skirtings *Fitting Decorated Cornices *Painting *Epoxy etc We are highly professional in listed services above. Read more

Our vision is your mission... Qualified building contractors Qualified and licenced plumbers Read more

With both a Portuguese & British upbringing, my personality is far from boring! Passionate is what I amabout LIFE, about FOOD & most of all INTERIOR spaces. I have always had a passion for Interior Decorating & Design and have been privileged to be able to pursue this as my career. My creative journey has shown and taught me appreciation for different styles of interior decorating allowing me to gain an in-depth knowledge of: Furniture; Fabrics; Design; Project Management and ensuring that I always... Read more

Painters Cape Town Southern Suburbs - We are the Premier Residential & Commercial Painting Contractor Serving the Greater Cape Town Area. We are a Full Service Painting Contractor. We pride ourselves on offering a COMPREHENSIVE PAINTING SOLUTION and HIGH QUALITY PAINTING FINISHES at competitive prices. If you're looking for a dependable and trustworthy Painting Company in Cape Town, Cape Painters is the painting contractor of choice. We have a proven track record of quality craftsmanship. Painters... Read more

WE specialises in building in-ground HAND PACK CONCRETE POOLS and also do fibreglass relinings on existing gunite,concrete and fibreglass swimming pools for ,architects,private customers,builders and home owners. WE also installs custom made pool deckings paving,carports and installation of pool pumps,pool filters,etc. Read more

Locally based Aluminium manufacturing business with over 10 years experience in the trade we value quality workmanship and a happy customer service Read more

INTERIOR DESIGN - Residential & Commercial PROFESSIONAL PAINTERS **ALSO AVAILABLE REMOTELY / ONLINE** Read more

We specialise in domestic and industrial plumbing. Plumbing construction, renovations and maintenance. Property inspections and issuing cocs. Drain cleaning and drain laying. Geyser installation, maintenance and replacement. Burst water pipes repairs. Bathroom renovation including plumbing, tiling, building and plastering. Solar geyser installation, maintenance and repairs. Heat pump installation, maintenance and repairs. Read more

For plumbing and electrical repairs and installations you can rely on. Qualified Plumbers and Electricians Emergency call outs Blurey Plumbing & Electrical understand that good customer service starts with communication. Our electrician or plumber will turn up on time and explain everything that has to be done, before the job begins. Blurey Plumbing & Electrical equips every qualified plumber and electrician that they employ with continual professional training in the latest plumbing and electrical... Read more

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LENNAR CONSTRUCTION (Pty)Ltd is a 100% black male owned civil and building construction company, we offer our services to the public, private and individual clients. The company operates nationally and has a wide experience in the Roofing and building industry.We pride ourselves on the high level of experience that our key-staff has gained over the years by working for different big companies before joining our group.Be a role player in the economic development of our country and improve the lives... Read more

We do all maintenance and renovation,plumbing,office and industrial cleaning, high pressure cleaning, fencing Read more

We at S.B.M do maintenance work at buildings houses flats commercial and industrial we do plumbing,electrical,floor sanding and sealing wooden decks etc feel free to contact the number provided for more information. Read more

Goss-Trio opened their doors in late 2019 and perform top quality work and are highly skilled in construction related projects since 2000. We strive to provide quality and focus on small to medium enterprises in the Western Cape area. With over 49 years of combined construction experience in our team, we are leading from the front, providing electrical installation services and maintenance , dry walling / partitioning skimmed and painted - designed to customer specifications , ceilings and bulkheads... Read more

Looking to boost the elegance of your rooms by dressing your windows in something stunning? Look no further than CURTAIN MASTER ; located in the heart of the Durban CBD in West Street, in Springfield, and our exquisite showroom in Morningside. We have grown from strength to strength to become the first port of call for anything related to dressing your windows. Be met by dedicated experts whose sole purpose is to assist you every step of the way. Its the personal, professional touch that makes... Read more

Building Renovations/Alterations &Home Improvement.... Tiling,plumbing,carpentry,waterproofing,decking,plastering,painting,drywall ,ect Read more

We are the best plumbing company specialize in installation and repairs of all plumbing works,residential, commercial & industrial. We TEMP has MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION PACKAGES to our clients in which services are being offered at no extra cost and call out fee (plumbing maintenance only) we work in all areas across western cape province Read more

Your perfect solution for accurate immediate and professional help with your entire major appliance repair problems.We are professional to repair install and Maintenance all makes all models of fridges, freezers, air condition, Cold room, washing machine, Tumble dryer; dishwasher and many more.Provide same-day service, 24 hrs a day / 7 days a week. Contact: Jeff or Frank Read more